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Thanks Guy Updated with your comments not sure if I/we had any of the endemic Erebia species, like lefebvrei, gorgone or sthennyo will take a look as I go through the pictures.

Here is the last batch for the first day and think I have the butterflies nailed apart from the first Ringlet however if I have something wrong please comment.
Ringlet ?
Ringlet ?
Moth ID needed
Moth ID needed
Wood White - (Leptidea sinapis)
Wood White - (Leptidea sinapis)
Brimstone - (Gonepteryx rhamni)
Brimstone - (Gonepteryx rhamni)
Crambus pascuella
Crambus pascuella
Scarce Copper Male -  (Lycaena virgaureae)
Scarce Copper Male - (Lycaena virgaureae)
Striped Lychnis Larvae -  Shargacucullia lychnitis
Striped Lychnis Larvae - Shargacucullia lychnitis
Marbled Skipper -  (Carcharodus lavatherae)
Marbled Skipper - (Carcharodus lavatherae)
Marbled Skipper -  (Carcharodus lavatherae)
Marbled Skipper - (Carcharodus lavatherae)
Scarce Copper Female - (Lycaena virgaureae)
Scarce Copper Female - (Lycaena virgaureae)
Scarce Copper Female - (Lycaena virgaureae)
Scarce Copper Female - (Lycaena virgaureae)
Pearly Heath -  (Coenonympha   arcania)
Pearly Heath - (Coenonympha arcania)
Large Skipper -  (Ochlodes sylvanus)
Large Skipper - (Ochlodes sylvanus)
Holly Blue -  (Celastrina argiolus)
Holly Blue - (Celastrina argiolus)
Striped Lychnis Larvae -  Shargacucullia lychnitis With parasitic fly eggs
Striped Lychnis Larvae - Shargacucullia lychnitis With parasitic fly eggs
Zygaena (Zygaena) ephialtes Need confirmation
Zygaena (Zygaena) ephialtes Need confirmation
Silver-washed Fritillary - (Argynnis paphia)
Silver-washed Fritillary - (Argynnis paphia)
Blue-spot Hairstreak -  (Satyrium spini)
Blue-spot Hairstreak - (Satyrium spini)
Which Forester
Which Forester
Which Forester
Which Forester
Zygaeninae Felix maybe
Zygaeninae Felix maybe
Long shot but Larvae ID needed
Long shot but Larvae ID needed
Meadow Brown - (Maniola jurtina)
Meadow Brown - (Maniola jurtina)
Froghopper  ID needed
Froghopper ID needed
End of day 1, what I have found interesting is the quantity of Zygaenidae out there in the big wide word, will look to see if there is a book available to aid ID's so if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great

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Andy

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Hi Andy.

The ringlet is a female Piedmont. The first burnet is ephialtes as you suggest. The next, I believe, is fausta, not felix, which is North Afican.

For the Zygaenids, I can recommend this:

http://www.napeditions.com/en/19-papill ... les-1.html

It is very comprehensively illustrated and has excellent text, with detailed descriptions and maps.

Guy

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Thanks again Guy for the pointers and will see if I can pick up the book at the AIS show in October as I am also after a copy of butterflies of Europe by Tristan Lafranchis. Will start day 2 tomorrow after I go over them again to confirm any Skippers and Ringlets.

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Not sure how I missed this from day 1 but not sure if Spotted or Lesser Spotted being drawn to the latter I know there is variability. Either that or I am totally wrong :?
Spotted or lesser spotted Fritillary
Spotted or lesser spotted Fritillary
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I would say that is spotted fritillary. The submarginal markings are round and there is no trace of the discocellular vein - I think your picture is sufficiently good to see that if it were there.

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Evening, here is the latest (day 2) from Spain, again will just upload the morning selection for perusal first, bit of a mix but you know me :)
Moth ID Needed
Moth ID Needed
Swallow-tail Larvae Early Instar
Swallow-tail Larvae Early Instar
Swallow-tail Larvae Early Instar
Swallow-tail Larvae Early Instar
Unfortunately this one died a few days later no obvious reason why
Swallow-tail Larvae
Swallow-tail Larvae
By the end of the week this one had marched of somewhere to pupate
Swallow-tail Larvae Fully Grown
Swallow-tail Larvae Fully Grown
Typical scenery
Typical scenery
Where we got the ski lift, a couple of us did walk down though
Where we got the ski lift, a couple of us did walk down though
Elder-flowered Orchid - (Dactylorhiza sambucina) Yellow form
Elder-flowered Orchid - (Dactylorhiza sambucina) Yellow form
Wall Lizard
Wall Lizard
Small Heath
Small Heath
Spotted Orchid (Dactylorhiza fuchsii)
Spotted Orchid (Dactylorhiza fuchsii)
Fragrant Orchid - (Gymnadenia Conopsea)
Fragrant Orchid - (Gymnadenia Conopsea)
Pyrausta cingulata
Pyrausta cingulata
Purple-edged Copper - (Lycaena hippothoe)
Purple-edged Copper - (Lycaena hippothoe)
Ringlet ID help needed Please
Ringlet ID help needed Please

The afternoon picture are all bar 1 Butterflies

Cheers

Andy

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Here is the afternoons selection from day 2, as always if anyone can fill the gaps for id's and let me know if I am wrong that will be really useful
Zygaena (Mesembrynus) purpuralis Confirmation needed
Zygaena (Mesembrynus) purpuralis Confirmation needed
Idas or Silver Studded ID Help Please
Idas or Silver Studded ID Help Please
Idas or Silver Studded ID Help Please
Idas or Silver Studded ID Help Please
Heath Fritillary
Heath Fritillary
Heath Fritillary
Heath Fritillary
Large Skippers
Large Skippers
ID Needed
ID Needed
Great Banded Grayling (Brintesia circe)
Great Banded Grayling (Brintesia circe)
Still not 100% with the yellow id and will be posting a few as the days go on so again if I am wrong please shout
Clouded Yellow (Colias crocea) Female
Clouded Yellow (Colias crocea) Female
Clouded Yellow (Colias crocea) Male
Clouded Yellow (Colias crocea) Male
Sorry only pictures I have of these 2 skippers
Skipper long shot but  ID Needed
Skipper long shot but ID Needed
Skipper long shot but  ID Needed
Skipper long shot but ID Needed
Marbled White
Marbled White
Wall Brown
Wall Brown
Common Blue
Common Blue
This is one of my favourite pics of the trip shame it was so windy and I did not get them on a less busy flower to show them off better
Knapweed Fritillary (Melitaea phoebe)
Knapweed Fritillary (Melitaea phoebe)
I was more surprised as the week went on with the quantity of really fresh individuals and the size variation for various species.

Cheers

Andy

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Hi Andy. From my experience of the Pyrenees I'm pretty sure your Plebejus is silver-studded. As for the Carcharodus skippers, I'm not 100%. If I had to put money down I'd probably call the first mallow and the second tufted marbled. But I don't have to! :D

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Hi, I don't dare to identify those two half-dead Skippers, but

http://ukbutterflies.co.uk/phpBB/downlo ... &mode=view
This reminds me of worn Zygaena laeta the most or st. similar "Pyrenees-specific"

http://ukbutterflies.co.uk/phpBB/downlo ... &mode=view
You'd have to genitalize this to identify, I'm afraid

http://ukbutterflies.co.uk/phpBB/downlo ... &mode=view
Zygaena ephialtes f. ephialtoides

http://ukbutterflies.co.uk/phpBB/downlo ... &mode=view
This animal seems to be idas/argyrognomon to me

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The Annoying Czech wrote:This animal seems to be idas/argyrognomon to me
P. argyrognomon doesn't fly in the Pyrenees, but I'm interested you considered it a possbility, Marek, because in its western range it never has broad borders like this. P. idas is very variable but I'm not aware of it having broad borders in the Pyrenees either. This individual looks very like the argus (silver-studded) I see when I visit this region. I wouldn't claim any authority, but with this group it helps to have local knowledge of the forms and my experience of the Spanish Pyrenees suggests very strongly this is argus.

Sometimes I'm spectacularly wrong! :D

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The truth is I worked with Central European know-how and counted with some visible differences betwen our argus vs. idas-argyrognomon (those two always have to be genitalized here, which is kind of unpleasant as idas is considered to be CR, whereas argyrogmon is locally common).

And as far as I know (and saw), both rear sides of the wings seems to be more idas-argyrognomon than argus to me, as the black rim is rather thin and the blue color is not dark enough. Also, our argus males, and I believe those photos are one and very same male individual, tend to be more brown and the spots are also slightly different, but it may be just a feeling.

Since I've actually never been to Pyrenees, I obviously may be wrong.

Also, argus is considerably smaller. At least that Central European.
Czech argus vs. idas
Czech argus vs. idas

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Thank you Guy and Marek interesting debate and useful info, will keep the id as silver studded/unconfirmed for now, I can see where you are coming from as the photo's I have of silver studded in the UK do seem to have in many instances less rounded hind and forewings, it means I will just have to go bake next year and try harder :D. Marek thanks for the pointers on the Burnett's and again will just have to leave the forester and unknown. At least I managed the yellows as I was worried about the id's.

Cheers

Andy

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Here is the start of day 3 usual mix but mainly Butterflies, again a few I need ID for and confirmation so feel free to chip in.
Long-horn beetle - ID Neede
Long-horn beetle - ID Neede
Wall Brown
Wall Brown
Southern Gatekeeper (Pyronia cecilia)
Southern Gatekeeper (Pyronia cecilia)
shield bug - (Graphosoma lineatum)
shield bug - (Graphosoma lineatum)
Zygaena (Agrumenia) occitanica
Zygaena (Agrumenia) occitanica
Knapweed Fritillary (Melitaea phoebe) I think
Knapweed Fritillary (Melitaea phoebe) I think
High Brown Fritillary (Argynnis adippe)
High Brown Fritillary (Argynnis adippe)
Adonis Blue (Lysandra bellargus) I Think
Adonis Blue (Lysandra bellargus) I Think
Scarce Swallowtail (Iphiclides podalirius)
Scarce Swallowtail (Iphiclides podalirius)
Scarce Swallowtail (Iphiclides podalirius)
Scarce Swallowtail (Iphiclides podalirius)
Forster's Furry Blue - (Polyommatus (Agrodiaetus) fulgens) Male
Forster's Furry Blue - (Polyommatus (Agrodiaetus) fulgens) Male
Woodland Grayling (Hipparchia fagi)
Woodland Grayling (Hipparchia fagi)
Provençal Short-tailed  Blue (Everes alcetas)
Provençal Short-tailed Blue (Everes alcetas)
White-legged Damselfly - (Platycnemis pennipes) I Think
White-legged Damselfly - (Platycnemis pennipes) I Think
Thanks

Andy

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Andy, Your longhorn looks like Stictoleptura cordigera (aka Leptura cordigera)

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Thanks for the ID Colin, will try to get a book at the AES show on beetles if cheap enough,

Here is another batch from day 3
Speckled Wood (Pararge aegeria)
Speckled Wood (Pararge aegeria)
Speckled Wood (Pararge aegeria)
Speckled Wood (Pararge aegeria)
Grayling - Great Banded I think
Grayling - Great Banded I think
Pretty sure this is a Common Blue but just seems a lot of orange!
Common Blue (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue (Polyommatus icarus)
Marbled White (Melanargia galathea) Leucomelas form
Marbled White (Melanargia galathea) Leucomelas form
Common Blue (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue (Polyommatus icarus)
Brown Argus (Aricia agestis)
Brown Argus (Aricia agestis)
Gatekeeper - (Pyronia tithonus)
Gatekeeper - (Pyronia tithonus)
Gatekeeper - (Pyronia tithonus)
Gatekeeper - (Pyronia tithonus)
Common Heath (Ematurga atomaria) I Think
Common Heath (Ematurga atomaria) I Think
ID Needed
ID Needed
Great Banded Grayling (Brintesia circe)
Great Banded Grayling (Brintesia circe)
Provençal Short-tailed  Blue (Everes alcetas) Female
Provençal Short-tailed Blue (Everes alcetas) Female
Cheers

Andy
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Clouded Yellow (Colias crocea) Male
Clouded Yellow (Colias crocea) Male

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Hi,

Here is the last batch of Day 3. Tomorrow I will post the pictures from the weekend which are mostly Larvae.
Bath White (Pontia daplidice)
Bath White (Pontia daplidice)
Carpenter Bee
Carpenter Bee
Swallowtail Larvae - (Papilio Machaon gorganus)
Swallowtail Larvae - (Papilio Machaon gorganus)
Great Banded Grayling (Brintesia circe) 1
Great Banded Grayling (Brintesia circe) 1
False Ilex Hairstreak (Satyrium esculi) I think
False Ilex Hairstreak (Satyrium esculi) I think
Pearly Heath (Coenonympha arcania)
Pearly Heath (Coenonympha arcania)
Grizzled or red underwing skipper
Grizzled or red underwing skipper
Adonis or Chalkhill Blue
Adonis or Chalkhill Blue
Zygaena (Agrumenia) occitanica 1
Zygaena (Agrumenia) occitanica 1
Marbled White (Melanargia galathea) Female
Marbled White (Melanargia galathea) Female
Weaver's Fritillary (Boloria dia)
Weaver's Fritillary (Boloria dia)
Marbled White (Melanargia galathea) Leucomelas form
Marbled White (Melanargia galathea) Leucomelas form
Marbled or Southern Marbled Skipper
Marbled or Southern Marbled Skipper
Spanish Gatekeeper (Pyronia bathseba)
Spanish Gatekeeper (Pyronia bathseba)
Ilex Hairstreak (Satyrium ilicis) Maybe
Ilex Hairstreak (Satyrium ilicis) Maybe
Enjoy

Andy

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Nice images, Andy, though your Skipper is not Red Underwing.

The Carpenter Bee is fascinating.

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Thank David,

Will put the Skipper down to Grizzled and do have a Red underwing in day 4 pics.

Cheers

Andy

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As I said in my earlier post here are the pictures from my weekend exploits and may be the last upload until next week. My usual eclectic mix I'm afraid.

First thing was to see the colour variation in these the Pebble Prominent Larvae
Pebble Prominent
Pebble Prominent
Pebble Prominent
Pebble Prominent
1305 - Agriphila tristella
1305 - Agriphila tristella
Bronze Shieldbug - (Troilus luridus) Late Stage Nymph
Bronze Shieldbug - (Troilus luridus) Late Stage Nymph
Found lots of Larvae of these at various stages of growth and an extraordinarily large amount of these at various sites
Buff-tip eggs
Buff-tip eggs
Been lucky with these as well in finding them at various sites, I was disappointed to see lots of nettles cut back at Magdalene hill where I had seen egg laying recently. (Perhaps this needs to be taken into consideration by the powers that be before they carry out this exercise at this time of year)
Comma Larvae
Comma Larvae
Nice to see the common blue in good numbers wherever I have been and in various condition
Common Blue - (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue - (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue - (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue - (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue - (Polyommatus icarus)
Common Blue - (Polyommatus icarus)
Again been lucky in finding at least 10 of these over the last month
Eyed-hawk Moth Larvae
Eyed-hawk Moth Larvae
Grey Dagger
Grey Dagger
Pale Prominent
Pale Prominent
Lucky to have a colony of these 2 mins from work and easy to find at head height :D probably one of our more stunning regular larve
Pine-hawk Moth Larvae
Pine-hawk Moth Larvae
Found this while trying to find Marsh Fritillary Larvae (No Joy)
Skullcap Sawfly - (Athalia scutellariae)
Skullcap Sawfly - (Athalia scutellariae)
Been a great year for these beauties and seen them everywhere and in various stages lets hope it lasts.
Small Tortoiseshell - (Aglais urticae)
Small Tortoiseshell - (Aglais urticae)
I think I will need to speak to some of you expert egg photographers out there but here is an attempt from the garden using extension tubes on my macro.
Small White
Small White
Small White
Small White
Speckled Bush-cricket
Speckled Bush-cricket
Swallow Prominent
Swallow Prominent
The Vapourer
The Vapourer
Anyway of to northern climes for the weekend (family) will take the camera and moth trap and hope for something special.

Cheers

Andy

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Great report A. and I see I have got one of my ID's incorrect! Well done identifying those eggs and I am looking forward to some spectacular results from your trip 'oop North' (why do folk even say that??!!!) :D

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