Bird id

Paulcrook · Post by **Paulcrook** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:27 am

I am after some help with this one and didn't know where else to put it. Can anyone help?

Thanks

Paul

59 SPECIES · Post by **59 SPECIES** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:07 am

Paul,

Looks like a Spotted Flycatcher to me

Philzoid · Post by **Philzoid** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:24 pm

not sure but I think it's a stonechat?

Brian Anderson · Post by **Brian Anderson** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:04 pm

I was thinking Whinchat

Paul Wetton · Post by **Paul Wetton** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:43 pm

It could be a female Whinchat but is very colourless for Whinchat and doesn't show any real sign of an eyestripe but thats what I'd go for.

Wurzel · Post by **Wurzel** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:04 pm

Well here is my 2 pennies worth - I saw a female Redstart the other day at Godshill and I think that it could be that - this would account for the lack of spotting and streaking on the breast and the pinkish/reddish tinge to the underside of the tail. At least this is what the less zoomed in image reminds me of...then I see the large zoomed in image and then it becomes a Spotted Flycatcher...

Have a goodun

Wurzel

Gibster · Post by **Gibster** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:09 pm

Well it's definitely a chat!

I've tried to enlarge the pics but they just pixelate. You could PM me the original copy?

At first I thought it was a rather plain/faded female Stonechat in awkward light. But the more I look, the more I'm inclined to agree with the others and would say female Whinchat. Pretty poorly marked supercillium though. Can't tell primary projection. Wing/mantle contrast very tricky to interpret too. The overall darkness of the folded wing and apparent appearance of the white flash may be better suited for Stonechat though...

The definitive plumage clue is that Whinchats have a white base to the outermost tail feathers, which is completely lacking in Stonechat. But I can't tell either way in your pic

I see it's a breeding bird (beakful of prey items.) What was the location, that could be a very big help!

Cheers,

Gibster.

Gibster · Post by **Gibster** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:21 pm

Changed my mind again!

I think it's a Stonechat now. The throat just looks too dark for a Whinchat (or is it just a shadow?) and the breast sides seem to show some sort of a streaky wash. My screen is just too poor for me to decide whether or not the outer tail feathers are pale based or not. Redstart is a good call, but it just doesn't look beady-eyed enough and I simply can't get my screen to show a pale reddish wash to the undertail either. And the jizz seems a bit wrong.

It's a Stonechat.

Um...Whinchat.

No, no...Stonechat...er...er...oh buggerit! Heck, isn't this meant to be a butterfly website?

millerd · Post by **millerd** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:57 pm

Yes, but it's always a good place for a chat...

Dave (not sure where my coat is...)

Roddick · Post by **Roddick** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:42 am

Not sure but I guess its a Whinchat...!!

MikeOxon · Post by **MikeOxon** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:02 am

Gibster wrote:isn't this meant to be a butterfly website?

I assumed this question was about what is in its beak! I guess it is/was a Small Skipper

Mike

Paul Wetton · Post by **Paul Wetton** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:52 am

Best looking at the more distant shot of it but blown up a bit.

Definitely a Stonechat Seth. I've changed my mind and agree with you.

Not sufficient supercillium for Whinchat and definitely has a dark throat patch. Jizz is right for Stonechat as well.

Definitely Stonechat.

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