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Oberthur's Grizzled Skipper?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:19 pm
by David M
At this time of year in SE France, if I see Oberthur's at all it is usually looking a bit worn, and indeed a couple of those who I was with presented me with images of precisely that. What bothers me with this specimen is that it looks quite fresh, but given the clear 'clothes' peg' on the uph along with the relatively unbroken white line on the unh I'm struggling to see what else it can be.

It was seen on a forest track at 1,000m:
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Re: Oberthur's Grizzled Skipper?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:29 pm
by Roger Gibbons
The underside markings look right for armoricanus. The upperside looks a bit extreme (jaggy) for armoricanus, but within the range of variation for this species.

Roger

Re: Oberthur's Grizzled Skipper?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:16 pm
by Padfield
I think so too.

Guy

Re: Oberthur's Grizzled Skipper?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:34 pm
by David M
Thanks, both. I'm used to fresh armoricanus in the Pyrenees in late May but they're thin on the ground in the Alps in early July so to see a relatively fresh specimen made me doubt myself.

Hard to see what else it could be though, as it clearly isn't one of the other four 'large' pyrgus that one encounters here at this time of year.