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Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:23 pm
by Allan.W.
A Large Tort; was seen and photographed in Orlestone Forest today ,giving nice views as it basked on the rideside vegetation

......I missed it by about 2 minutes ! But did see 3 each Brimstone,Comma,Peacock.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:37 pm
by David Lazarus
Wow....what I sighting.

- Large Tortoiseshell
Birchett Wood 05/03/2025
Copyright: Alan Cooper
At grid reference TQ99123540
Edit: apologies date corrected on image
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:00 pm
by David M
Excellent! March is probably the best month to see this species.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:28 pm
by Allan.W.
Large Tort again today on my local circuit in Orlestone ,singles are now turning up in other sections of the forest. At another wood Hamstreet Wood (Bourne Wood ) another was noted.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:29 pm
by bugboy
Allan.W. wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:28 pm
Large Tort again today on my local circuit in Orlestone ,singles are now turning up in other sections of the forest. At another wood Hamstreet Wood (Bourne Wood ) another was noted.
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From the look of that picture I think I might have been standing next to you!
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:59 pm
by Allan.W.
Glad you got to see one Bugboy........As I recall ,I took a couple of shots ,and got out of the way ,there were a couple of chaps at my shoulder I thinkl........If i,d have recognised you i,d have said hello ....... did you walk from Hamstreet station ? had I known I,d have offered you a lift ! Allan.W.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:16 pm
by bugboy
At least 2 Allan. I thought I was going to miss them but the stars aligned so I got there. Walked from Ham Street but found a better route than walking along that main road

Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:29 pm
by Allan.W.
Are you on this pic Bugboy ?
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:32 pm
by bugboy
Haha, no luckily, I was meant to be at work today...

Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:18 pm
by purplepalpatine
I’m in the background of that one
Thank you David Lazarus for including a grid ref in your original post, without which I wouldn’t have had a clue where to start on an unfamiliar patch. And with an 8 hour round trip from Bristol, I really needed to maximise my chances of a sighting!
After 3 hours of waiting, spent a joyous hour watching 2 large torts - my first ever! (Which means I’ve already seen 1 more large tortoiseshell this year than I saw small tortoiseshells in the whole of last year. Let’s hope the smalls have a better 2025).
For anyone visiting tomorrow unfamiliar with orlestone, the best sightings today were in birchett wood between 1 and 2pm, around 3-400m further up the ride (north west) from the grid ref at the start of this thread
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:29 pm
by Allan.W.
pleased you managed a couple Purplepalpatine ones and twos have now been reported from several sections ,for anyone visiting its well worth a look in Longrope wood (across the road ) puts me in mind of a gent that had travelled from West Cornwall a few years back for Long-tailed Blue (at Kingsdown,Deal) As he was leaving ,having been unsuccessful ,we were also leaving and I stumbled across a male ,which we all enjoyed !
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:32 pm
by MrSp0ck
We had the first one down on the track after 1pm, 1.16pm on this log, signaled all the others who had been looking from 11.30am with no luck, then good sightings until 3.30pm ish. Good to bump into you all again. The Group photo at peak with 2 together and a comma 1.58pm
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:46 pm
by David M
Really good to see such a twitch so early in the year. Long may it continue!
I wouldn't be surprised if they turned up in Wales over the next couple of years.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:28 am
by Kevin64
Allan.W. wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:29 pm
pleased you managed a couple Purplepalpatine ones and twos have now been reported from several sections ,for anyone visiting its well worth a look in Longrope wood (across the road ) puts me in mind of a gent that had travelled from West Cornwall a few years back for Long-tailed Blue (at Kingsdown,Deal) As he was leaving ,having been unsuccessful ,we were also leaving and I stumbled across a male ,which we all enjoyed !
Strangely enough we saw our first one of the day at 9.00am on the other side of the road, sunny itself in a small clearing( W3W tint.refreshed.indicate)
Amazing to see these beautiful butterflies, had 3 for the day and watching them fly was a real joy, lifers for us.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:40 am
by MrSp0ck
Kevin64 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:28 am
Strangely enough we saw our first one of the day at 9.00am on the other side of the road, sunny itself in a small clearing( W3W tint.refreshed.indicate)
Amazing to see these beautiful butterflies, had 3 for the day and watching them fly was a real joy, lifers for us.
Yes we heard of that early sighting when we arrived, lots of people were looking out with no luck, there was a cool breeze until after 1pm, lots of commas sunning everywhere, then it warmed up just a tiny bit and LTs were sunning to the delight of all the people waiting.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:14 pm
by Allan.W.
VERY busy in Orlestone earlier .........never seen the car park more or less full .O ne or two Large Torts still around in at least 3 sections .I visited a section which I felt would be a bit quieter ......it was .As I approached a large patch of Primrose ,and looking through the bins it held 2 Comma and 2 Brimstones ,lowered the bins took another couple of steps ,and almost trod on..........a Large Tort ! curiously its flight was very lethargic .....and I thought it was going to re-ground......but sadly it disappeared up into the trees ! I wonder if it was a newly wakened individual.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:39 pm
by Butterfly_Julian
Are these sightings coming from someone doing a release ?
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:46 pm
by bugboy
Butterfly_Julian wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:39 pm
Are these sightings coming from someone doing a release ?
There've been regular sightings for a number of years now here so whilst releases can never be ruled out, it does seem to be a self sustaining colony. There's also a few similar sized woodlands nearby which don't get as much attention but do have sightings recorded.
Allan W is local to the area so would know more details.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:24 pm
by Butterfly_Julian
Thanks for the reply bugboy.
I will have to look at doing a quick trip over the bridge next year to see them.
Or maybe one will pop over and see us in North East Essex. Had a Small Blue do this a couple of summers ago. We will keep a look out.
Re: Large Tortoiseshell.
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:15 am
by Lawts
Were there records from the Orlestone/Hamstreet area last year? I don't recall seeing any. I remember Knepp and Portland, I think it was but not here.
Also, how long might one expect to see them at this site, given the right weather conditions, before it goes quiet again?
Thanks.