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this had recently died in an old building in Northants

what sort of Moff is it please ?

I think its a Herald ,Charles ,they do overwinter in old buildings and suchlike , if not ,one of the thorns ,can,t see enough
of the topside to be sure . Regards Allan.W.

Allan.W. wrote:I think its a Herald ,Charles ,they do overwinter in old buildings and suchlike , if not ,one of the thorns ,can,t see enough
of the topside to be sure . Regards Allan.W.

thanks Allan !

here is the other pic, this may help you

Yes ,i'll stick with The Herald , Charles ! Regards Allan.W.

Allan.W. wrote:Yes ,i'll stick with The Herald , Charles ! Regards Allan.W.

thanks again Allan !

i did notice that none of the Heralds here have the wings in the "Up" position....

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=heral ... UmM:&vet=1

Hello again Charles ,
All the Heralds that I,ve caught or found overwintering are all as shown in those pictures on Google Charles ,but then I,ve never found a dead one !
Early thorn sits with its wings closed at rest butterfly wise ,and Purple Thorn ,sits with wings half cocked ! but for me it is still a Herald.
Regards Allan.W.

Allan.W. wrote:Hello again Charles ,
All the Heralds that I,ve caught or found overwintering are all as shown in those pictures on Google Charles ,but then I,ve never found a dead one !
Early thorn sits with its wings closed at rest butterfly wise ,and Purple Thorn ,sits with wings half cocked ! but for me it is still a Herald.
Regards Allan.W.

thanks for that Allan. i guess it is a post mortem thing