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ID Quiz

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:10 pm
by Pete Eeles
Hi All,

I was sent a photo of an old collection that will be used in a natural education discovery station for kids with learning difficulties and the sender would like some help with ID. Each has been numbered and kudos to the first person to get them all :)
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Cheers,

- Pete

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:05 pm
by Pete Eeles
The butterflies:

2 - Small Heath
9 - Small Tortoiseshell
13 - Green-veined White
25 - Silver-studded Blue
26 - Silver-studded Blue
35 - Small White
39 - Common Blue
41 - Large Tortoiseshell
48 - Small Heath
51 - Brimstone
62 - Small White
64 - Green-veined White
66 - Green-veined White
71 - Small White
72 - Large White

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:58 pm
by bugboy
A mixture of dead certs and speculative stabs at some of the moths:

Broom Moth 1,19,50,57,70
Silver Y 65
Clouded Border 17,18,42,53
Brimstone Moth 47
Poplar Hawkmoth 32
Lime Hawkmoth 44
Garden Tiger Moth 63
Angle Shades 49,74
Buff Arches 4,53
Striped Wainscot 6
Smoky Wainscot 11,20,69
Dog's Tooth 55
Scorched Wing 15,33,68
Common Marbled Carpet 54
Chocolate-tip 40
Cyphia sp. 60
Puss moth 52
Archers Dart 8

All those smaller Geomatrids though..... :? :lol:

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:08 pm
by bugboy
Also 46 looks like a female Lysandra blue

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:38 pm
by bugboy
Some more possibles (it's been a quiet few evenings at Bugboys dwellings :lol: )

Brown Silver-line 34
Engrailed 5,36,56
Willow Beauty 12
Pale Tussock 22

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:41 am
by David M
bugboy wrote:Also 46 looks like a female Lysandra blue
It does, BB, although it's noticeably small in size. I'd expect both Chalkhill and Adonis females to be considerably larger.

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:47 pm
by Allan.W.
54.Common Marbled Carpet.
30. Brown-Tail (and probably 31 ,its a bit weather-beaten )
65. Silver .Y.
28 . Smoky Wave (?)
7 .Pale Tussock (another )
73. Dogs Tooth (another )
Agree with Cryphia sp; to my eye ……..Marbled Green. Regards Allan.W.

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:36 pm
by bugboy
59 a third Pale Tussock
27,37,38 a Carpet of some sort with 51,67 possibly the same species.
21,29 a Pug of some sort?

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:45 pm
by Neil Freeman
bugboy wrote:...21,29 a Pug of some sort? ...
21,29 Seraphim.

edit:

27,37,38 possibly Grey-pine Carpet?

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:36 pm
by bugboy
Neil Freeman wrote:
bugboy wrote:...21,29 a Pug of some sort? ...
21,29 Seraphim.

edit:

27,37,38 possibly Grey-pine Carpet?
I agree with Grey Pine Carpet and would suggest 51 & 67 are also Grey Pine Carpets

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:57 pm
by Pete Eeles
Thanks for filling in the gaps, chaps - much appreciated :)

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:06 pm
by Allan.W.
As a last "Go" 14,45 . Wainscot sp;
75 . Square -spot. (faded )
3. Dark Arches (Dark specimen !)
16.Silver-ground carpet (worn ) ??
couldn't find number 61.
The Large Tort 'is an odd looking individual ,the wings (hind and fore ) on the right ,seem a lot smaller to me ,maybe its the way its been set
or perhaps its laying at an angle .
Allan.W.

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:07 pm
by Charles Nicol
61: The Lucan

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:38 pm
by Jack Harrison
Charles:
61: The Lucan
I've only just looked at this thread. Brilliant Charles but it might not be understood by everyone.

Jack

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:51 pm
by petesmith
Charles Nicol wrote:61: The Lucan
Love it Charles! Great observational interpretation!

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:11 pm
by Neil Hulme
Hi all. I've just caught up with this thread; some very interesting observations.
David - 46 looks to be a female Chalk Hill Blue, but a dwarf specimen.
Allan - well spotted! I think the Large Tortoiseshell specimen is a very rare bilateral gynandromorph (female left side).
BWs, Neil

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:28 pm
by Allan.W.
Thanks for that Neil ,must admit it had also crossed my mind ,but I thought what are the odds of that
in a small random collection ! " The Lucan " ……… brilliant that Charles ! Regards Allan.W.

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:05 pm
by David M
Isn't it amazing how, in retrospect, you haven't seen the wood for the trees?

Yes Neil, there is a distinct lack of symmetry in the Large Tortoiseshell. Now that you have posted your comments I feel foolish for not even being in the slightest bit aware.

Charles, your No. 61 is sublime. :)

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:57 am
by Charles Nicol
Jack Harrison wrote:Charles:
61: The Lucan
I've only just looked at this thread. Brilliant Charles but it might not be understood by everyone.

Jack
hehehe i think the forum members are quite on the ball Jack :D
petesmith wrote:
Charles Nicol wrote:61: The Lucan
Love it Charles! Great observational interpretation!
Allan.W. wrote:Thanks for that Neil ,must admit it had also crossed my mind ,but I thought what are the odds of that
in a small random collection ! " The Lucan " ……… brilliant that Charles ! Regards Allan.W.
David M wrote:Isn't it amazing how, in retrospect, you haven't seen the wood for the trees?

Yes Neil, there is a distinct lack of symmetry in the Large Tortoiseshell. Now that you have posted your comments I feel foolish for not even being in the slightest bit aware.

Charles, your No. 61 is sublime. :)
thanks guys :lol:

Re: ID Quiz

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:09 pm
by Jack Harrison
Charles
hehehe I think the forum members are quite on the ball Jack :D
The under 20s?

Jack