October 2017

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Re: October 2017

Postby essexbuzzard » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:09 pm

Visited two sites in Shoreham, West Sussex today, Sunday. At the harbour, Small White 5, (numbers estimated) Large White 1, Clouded Yellow 8, 1 helice, Small Coppers 2, Common Blue 10, Red Admiral 2.
Then onto Mill Hill NR, Small White 3,Clouded Yellow 5, Common Blue 8, Comma 1, Red Admiral 2, Painted Lady 1, Meadow Brown 10, Wall 4. 10 species in October. Had there been a bit more sunshine, I'm sure I could have managed a couple more! More to come on my PD.
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Re: October 2017

Postby Allan.W. » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:24 pm

Thanks for comments David ,concerning the Blue spot Copper,i was pleased to see it ! I,m pretty certain its the same individual that Hoggers found earlier in the day ,it was a beauty ! Regards Allan.W.

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Re: October 2017

Postby Jack Harrison » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:36 am

Lossiemouth Moray, 9th October
One Peacock and one [surprise] GV White.

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Re: October 2017

Postby peterc » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:00 am

peterc wrote:After finding 2 or 3 female Small Coppers in a small area on my local patch last Thursday I decided to search for eggs at this spot today. I did look for them on Thursday without success. There is much low-growing Sheep's Sorrel around but I did't really know exactly where to look so I was struggling. After over an hour I eventually found one. It was on a south-west facing bank but sheltered from woodland on the western side some 10-20 metres away.

ATB

Peter


Last Sunday, I returned to the spot where I found the egg. It had now hatched. Does anyone know what the white area above the egg shell is? Could it be the larva? See photo below - not the best quality I am afraid :)

ATB

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Re: October 2017

Postby Pete Eeles » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:51 am

peterc wrote:Does anyone know what the white area above the egg shell is?


Hi Peter,

After emerging from the egg, the larva will move to the underside of the leaf and feed on the epidermis. This leaves transparent "windows" in the leaf when viewed from above, and you may be seeing the start of that. The only way to check is to look on the underside of the leaf.

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Re: October 2017

Postby peterc » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:49 am

Pete Eeles wrote:
peterc wrote:Does anyone know what the white area above the egg shell is?


Hi Peter,

After emerging from the egg, the larva will move to the underside of the leaf and feed on the epidermis. This leaves transparent "windows" in the leaf when viewed from above, and you may be seeing the start of that. The only way to check is to look on the underside of the leaf.

Cheers,

- Pete


Thanks Pete. I will search for the larva and any leaf 'damage' in the next few days.

Peter

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Re: October 2017

Postby peterc » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:58 pm

Visited Knebworth Park again today to find Small Copper eggs and larvae at the spot when I found an egg last week. I was joined by a chap who was having a lunch break and showed him the hatched out egg. Within a couple of minutes he looked under a leaf on the same plant and saw 5 eggs and 2 larvae :) .

ATB

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Re: October 2017

Postby David M » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:50 pm

Great observations, Peter!

I can't seem to get out of the house lately for larvae or anything else, but I did see my first butterfly for a couple of weeks from my kitchen window at around noon today - a Comma basking on my neighbour's roof:

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Re: October 2017

Postby Charles Nicol » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:21 pm

Was tempted out by warm ( but breezy ) weather... walked all the way round Grafham Water. In spots sheltered from the breeze there were some fine Red Admirals and a few Commas on the brambles.

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Re: October 2017

Postby David M » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:29 pm

peterc wrote:Well done on the Comma - perhaps you'll see more in the next days before the storm arrives...


I had high hopes of that, Peter, but the forecast has changed radically and this weekend looks to be yet another no-go zone. :(

It really has been dire here lately, and I've all but written off the back end of the season, save for the inevitable Red Admirals that are likely to keep going into mid-November

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Re: October 2017

Postby Allan.W. » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:49 pm

Had a couple of hours at Dungeness ,midday, and there were about 20-30 birders in a clump around one of the small dwellings "having" a Raddes Warbler ,we left them too it and did our usual short walk ,plenty still on show,on a glorious day ! with at least 11 Clouded Yellows on the wing (but could have been up to 14 ) but alas not a Helice amongst them ! 18 Small Coppers ,most in fine fettle ,with a few tatty males
found one slight oddity ,I,ve seen similar before,with very orange hindwings ,possibly AB;Auronitens . 2 Small Heath, one each Red Ad; Painted Lady
and Peacock.
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Re: October 2017

Postby peterc » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:29 am

Found just two Small Coppers yesterday at the site where I found the eggs and the larvae but I also saw a moth larva on the ground which I can't positively identify. Perhaps a Ruby Tiger?

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Re: October 2017

Postby jenks » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:52 pm

Just returned from a very enjoyable weekend at the Portland Bird Observatory. Sunday saw an incredible 68 Firecrests caught,ringed and released in the observatory gardens. This compares with a previous best annual total of 67 Firecrests ! And butterflies were in good attendance too, especially on Saturday afternoon in the warm sunshine. Seen were; 2 Small White, 2 Large White, 1 Comma, 1 Small Tortoiseshell, 6 Peacock, at least 10 Red Admiral, 6 Speckled Wood and 3 Clouded Yellow including 1 helice. Also Common Darter and Southern Hawker dragonflies. Not bad for an October weekend.

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Re: October 2017

Postby Allan.W. » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:44 pm

68 Firecrests Brilliant Jenks,although I,m not a heavy duty birder these days ,I still never tire of seeing these little gems,very envious !! Nice one. Theres been 4-5 at Dungeness over the weekend.......but 68 .
Had a day off today ,thought I,d visit my local patch(Orlestone forest, Kent) ,well past its best now ,didn,t expect too much, probably my last visit (for butterflies) this year ,the foresters were busy ,cropping and piling the pines.
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With a fair breeze blowing ,and leaves falling around me ,I nearly turned back ,but in the distance I noticed a yellow "leaf" skip across the ride and was amazed to see a Clouded Yellow.....a female ,very pleased with this !
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Spent about an hour and a quarter ,wandering about,and only managed one more butterfly a single fresh Red Admiral, noticed a large caterpillar wandering about ,which I think is an Oak Eggar.
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Re: October 2017

Postby David M » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:12 pm

Hurrah! Only my second butterfly in what has been an abjectly dismal October.

In dull conditions late morning a Red Admiral settled on my works car park. Afraid it might be crushed, I walked over and was able to pick it up and put it amongst the shrubs along the walkway nearby.

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Re: October 2017

Postby millerd » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:11 pm

Another (rather late) brand new third brood Holly Blue on my local patch near Heathrow today...
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Re: October 2017

Postby David M » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:23 pm

Nice sighting, Dave.

I had my own bonus at lunch time today after nipping out to my old stomping ground at Clydach, 7 miles north of Swansea. I ate my sandwich in a known hotspot and sure enough, I was treated to three Red Admirals, a male Large White and a beautiful Small Copper. :D

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Re: October 2017

Postby millerd » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:39 pm

Brilliant, David! :) Glad to hear there are still a few things lurking in South Wales as well...

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Re: October 2017

Postby badgerbob » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:27 pm

Before Storm Brian turns up tomorrow I thought I would have one more quick look in the High and Over area to see if I could find just one more Wall Brown. As it was one female was seen and will probably be my last of the year after the battering expected tomorrow!! Also seen were 2 Speckled Wood, 1 Peacock, 3 Red Admiral and at least 4 Clouded Yellow all trying to keep out of the strong wind. As the light faded a really nice Clouded Yellow was found that gave a chance for a quick photo.

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Female Wall Brown.



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Female Clouded Yellow.

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Re: October 2017

Postby Jack Harrison » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:46 pm

21st October - Nairnshire
Bowles' Mauve works its magic again.

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"Who's a furry beastie?"

For those who don't know Bowles' Mauve, it's a short lived perennial wallflower (normally lasts three to four years but I have seen very large examples that are presumably older.) It becomes a little woody with age and it should not be pruned into the woody stems - it will only grow from the green shoots. It is very easy to take cuttings and I achieve almost 100% success - except when I am impatient and plant out before the cutting has properly rooted. Flowers here for nine months and probably all year in mild coastal districts. The plant is frost-hardy.

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