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ID confirmation please

Postby BeeHappyFlutterBy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:25 pm

Found on a Calor Gas bottle:!:

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Re: ID confirmation please

Postby Allan.W. » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:49 pm

Hello Beehappy....
Looks like a Large White to me ! Regards Allan.W.

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Re: ID confirmation please

Postby BeeHappyFlutterBy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:34 pm

Thank you, Allan W much appreciated :D ... i was thrown with it being on the Calor Gas bottle :?
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Postby David M » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:42 pm

That's fairly decent camouflage in all honesty! :)

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Postby Jack Harrison » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:59 am

It might get damaged or destroyed in its present location (if say bottle is moved).

I would wait until chrysalis is fully hardened and then very carefully cut the silk-like threads that hold it in place, being especially careful where the pad at end of abdomen is attached. Then transfer to a safe place for the winter but not indoors as that would be too warm. I would use a box and keep in shed.

Any other different ideas?

Jack

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Postby Pete Eeles » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:02 pm

Jack Harrison wrote:It might get damaged or destroyed in its present location (if say bottle is moved).

I would wait until chrysalis is fully hardened and then very carefully cut the silk-like threads that hold it in place, being especially careful where the pad at end of abdomen is attached. Then transfer to a safe place for the winter but not indoors as that would be too warm. I would use a box and keep in shed.

Any other different ideas?

Jack


Yeah - put the Calor Gas bottle in a shed :)

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Re: ID confirmation please

Postby BeeHappyFlutterBy » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:52 pm

Thanks for all your replies advice - just an update to say that the beauty emerged safely - we named it the rare Butane bottle Butterfly :lol: But as kindly id by @Allan.W. it was a Large white.



I have just been in my wildlife garden checking on the nettle patch and very pleased that i found these - Now can i ask for your id advice again, please. I hope the photos are good enough photography, not my strong point im afraid :?
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Postby Pete Eeles » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:47 pm

That's a very productive nettle patch! The pupa is a Comma. The larva is a final-instar Red Admiral.

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Re: ID confirmation please

Postby BeeHappyFlutterBy » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:23 pm

:D :D :D :D :D Thank you @Pete Eeles
i was sooooo hoping you would confirm both those Butterflies for me, im only a learner and,im thrilled as I've had soooo many visitors this year - my garden has had up to 16 small tortoiseshells in one count :D lots of Comma.Red Admirals, Peacocks, Painted Ladies, Meadow Brown, Speckled Wood, Ringlet and Silver-washed Fritillary to name a few, Not forgetting the Hummingbird Hawkmoths :) Im still seeing a lot of visitors in spite of the weather becoming increasingly wet here- Its very difficult for me to do any form of clearing of the beds to Autumn sow for next year as there's still so much activity - Im now having to consider creating a new bed border for my wildflowers for fear of disturbing anything which naturally i would never, never do : cry: As a matter of interest when do you do any clearing of your nettle patch, and are there any insects that would overwinter on them?
as well as seeing the above there were lots of grasshoppers and different bumbles, hoverflies, honey bees, green shield bug plus a lovely ladybird - I will wait and see how many head for the Beams in my Cottage this year to overwinter, i do have lots of overwintering plants both indoors and in my greenhouse that i encourage on blooming in case of early stirring pollinators- I find this year many more have used the undercover hanging baskets more frequently due to the increased shower periods we have experience- which hopefully will bode well for next year's potential offspring :)
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