Pyrgus ID help required Part 1 - French Alps 2017

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Pyrgus ID help required Part 1 - French Alps 2017

Postby David M » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:27 pm

I have several pyrgus seen and photographed from my 18 days in the Mercantour Park that I'd like a second (or third) opinion on if possible?

Number 1

I favour armoricanus here, mainly due to the bright appearance of the 'clothes peg' marking on the ups hindwing as well as the general look of the underside. It was a large pyrgus seen at 1,000m:

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Re: Pyrgus ID help required Part 1 - French Alps 2017

Postby David M » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:37 pm

Number 2

This one is more of a puzzler. Again, it was found at 1,000m and it is quite a large pyrgus, but slightly smaller than I am used to armoricanus being. Whilst the ups look good for Oberthur's, the undersides were a deeper, rusty ground colour and the markings quite unusual. The nearest match I can find is cirsii:

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Re: Pyrgus ID help required Part 1 - French Alps 2017

Postby Roger Gibbons » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:54 am

#1 probably armoricanus

#2 malvoides (you may be over-complicating)

Roger (en routeto the Mercantour, but possibly too late as it's an early season)

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Re: Pyrgus ID help required Part 1 - French Alps 2017

Postby David M » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:19 pm

Thanks, Roger. Yes, I'm probably doing precisely that as I don't think I've ever seen malvoides on the forest track before and it looked larger than the ones I'm used to seeing in the UK.

The season is early as you say, but there are crazy numbers about, probably more than I've ever seen, with Great Sooty Satyrs, Large Ringlets and Scarce Coppers particularly numerous.

Enjoy your trip.


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