Hello,
This is in fact a reply to a prompt by Celery in the Favourite Photo thread regarding Clouded Yellow ID tips.
Hi Celery, following your sightings in France this year, I'm by no means an expert on the matter, but I've picked up a couple of identifiers you may be interested in in order to discriminate between Clouded Yellows (C. crocea) and Berger's Clouded Yellow (C. alfacariensis). Excuse me if I state the obvious, but I have to start somewhere.
Your photos in the Favourite Photo thread are clearly of a male C. crocea.
The dark areas on the forewings are uniform. Male:
Male C. crocea seen from the underside, by transparency, exhibits the same uniform dark shadow.
Female C. crocea on the other hand has clear patches within the dark area. The area circled on the photo shows a dark band which distinctly isolates the clear patch from the ground colour.
We should also consider the female C. crocea form helice, as the light ground colour seen in flight, can sometimes cause confusion with female C. alfacariensis. On the upperside of C. crocea form helice, we see the same distinct dark band as on the regular female C. crocea, circled in red here.
This effect is also visible by transparency on an underside view of female C. crocea, regular and form helice. Dark band distinctly isolating the clear patch:
If we now look at the female C. alfacariensis, we note that a view of the uppersides shows that the clear patch is not completely isolated from the ground colour. The dark band is incomplete:
This effect is also visible by transparency on an underside view of female C. alfacariensis:
Moral of the story, try to also get back-lit shots of the Colias genus.
Underside of male C. alfacariensis. In flight, the male is more of a pale lime green colour.
Any observations are welcome.
Chris
Clouded Yellow - Berger's ID tips
- Chris Jackson
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Re: Clouded Yellow - Berger's ID tips
Good stuff, Chris. Few people on here have regular experience of both species but you are one and as such your observations carry a fair bit of weight.
Re: Clouded Yellow - Berger's ID tips
Thanks Chris - most helpful!
It's good to have my IDs confirmed. The main reason I was wavering was that my host during my vacation in Dordogne suggested that the individual in the landscape-oriented shot I posted in the 'Favourites' thread was alfacariensis - though to be fair to him he'd only taken a cursory glance at the pics.
Anyhoo - using your tips - here's what I hope are a couple of shots of Berger's male and female:
cheers, celery
It's good to have my IDs confirmed. The main reason I was wavering was that my host during my vacation in Dordogne suggested that the individual in the landscape-oriented shot I posted in the 'Favourites' thread was alfacariensis - though to be fair to him he'd only taken a cursory glance at the pics.
Anyhoo - using your tips - here's what I hope are a couple of shots of Berger's male and female:
cheers, celery