ID 1 - Dordogne Blues - Jul/Aug 17, about 300m alt.

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ID 1 - Dordogne Blues - Jul/Aug 17, about 300m alt.

Postby MTem » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:21 am

Hello all,

Had a bit of difficulty getting registered - all sorted. I sent these to Guy Padfield by e mail, and he did explain he might be a while getting round to responding so I have posted them here as well to see if anyone else wants a go!

A couple posts more to follow.

Blues this time. Any help appreciated and any pointers to how you decided.
In most cases I couldn't get a upper wing photo, they kept the wings resolutely closed. And in the cases I did get an upper wing they buttered off before I could get an underwing! So I recognise some (all?) may have to go in the un-ID'd box.
EDIT: For some reason the images are in reverse order so....

5. Chalkhill Blue M
4. Common Blue M&F
3. Silver-studded Blue M
2. ??
1. ??

I can best be described as a long-term birdwatcher and general naturalist, but a complete novice with a Collins Field guide where flutterbies are concerned, so excuse any naivety please!

Mick
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??
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??
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Silver-studded blue?
Jul17-112FR.jpeg
Common Blue M&F
Jul17-103FR.jpeg
Chalk hill Blue M

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Re: ID 1 - Dordogne Blues - Jul/Aug 17, about 300m alt.

Postby Chris Jackson » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:01 pm

Hi Mick,
I'd like to have a bash at ID-ing these butterflies (while my boss has got his back turned 8) ).

1 = Brown Argus - the forewing orange lunules run up to the front of the wing.
2 = Chalk-hill Blue - chequered fringe and presence of a forewing underside cell spot (find out what a cell spot is if you don't know).
3 = SSB - OK
4 = CB - OK
5 = Possibly a washed-out Common Blue - no chequered fringe visible

I'm happy to be corrected. :D

Cheers,
Chris
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Re: ID 1 - Dordogne Blues - Jul/Aug 17, about 300m alt.

Postby MTem » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:35 pm

Re No 2 Chris, by forward underside cell spot do you mean this one?
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Re: ID 1 - Dordogne Blues - Jul/Aug 17, about 300m alt.

Postby Chris Jackson » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:40 pm

Hi Mick,

No - here in the red oval, slightly hidden. It is most important for ID-ing blues.

Jul17-169FR.jpg


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Re: ID 1 - Dordogne Blues - Jul/Aug 17, about 300m alt.

Postby Padfield » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:58 pm

Sorry Mick! I didn't mean to take so long - the problem is, when I don't reply immediately to an e-mail it gets swamped by others and I usually completely forget (I did also say, don't hesitate to prompt me if I forget ...!).

I agree with all these IDs from Chris.

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Re: ID 1 - Dordogne Blues - Jul/Aug 17, about 300m alt.

Postby MTem » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:04 am

Chris Jackson wrote:Hi Mick,

No - here in the red oval, slightly hidden. It is most important for ID-ing blues.

Jul17-169FR.jpg

Chris


Thanks Chris - and you did say forewing!
No problem Guy!

Mick


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